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skull_bearer ([personal profile] skull_bearer) wrote2011-01-20 04:14 pm
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Dear well off Jewish Woman at the talk today:

You do not, really not, absolutely not, NEVER FUCKING NOT have the right to criticise a Holocaust survivor when he tells you he does not believe in god. Or go into a rant about how the Jews are clearly the chosen people and how can he not admit the obvious truth yadda yadda yadda.

SERIOUSLY WHAT IS UP WITH THAT? I'VE MET NEO-NAZIS WHO'VE BEHAVED BETTER!

 -- The woman in the front row who's quite proud she didn't punch your lights out.

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The only reason I didn't tell her to shut up was because I didn't want this the turn into a religion debate. But when she was going on and on about how God was 'testing' his chosen people it was like some brain-damaged kid was running up and down the room with his knickers on his head. It was SO EMBARASSING!

[identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There, I suspect, speaks someone who never lost a relative in the sho'ah :o(

The main synagogue in Budapest has a holocaust memorial. It's a life sized silver willow tree- every leaf- EVERY LEAF! is etched with the name of a victim.

I'm not, as you know, Jewish, although I have Jewish ancestry down the matriarchal line (which means to most Jews that I am :o) but the Holocaust memorial in Vienna was able to put me on my knees in floods of tears.

That woman needs to go away and find out the meaning of the word 'privilege'............

[identity profile] wikdsushi.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because the Holocaust was a test. Everyone just filed in, sat down, took up their pencils, and anyone who made less than 60% got gassed. There are lots of reasons to be an atheist, and surviving the most brutal and disgusting wholesale slaughter of human life in recorded history is a damned good one.

People confuse me sometimes. Especially that lady. Oy.

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2011-01-20 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not making a distinction in this. Some holcoaust survivors still believe in god, and that's understandable, survival was such a miracle you migth well start thinking someone was looking out for you, or maybe you just want to believe there was some point to it all. Some don't and that's more than understandable. I am an atheists in the Dawkins style but there are some places I just DO NOT GO.