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merelypassingtime: Gendering Venom: A Debate Because I think about Venom 24/6 (I reserve Sundays for
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merelypassingtime:
Gendering Venom: A Debate
Because I think about Venom 24/6 (I reserve Sundays for just thinking about Tom Hardy {Mmm.. Tom Hardy… [No! Bad Mere! It’s not Sunday]}), I have thought long and deeply about whether or not to use gendered pronouns for Venom.
And the result of all my thinking, pondering, and deliberating is: I don’t know.
Canon is that Venom is a ‘he.’ Both Anne and Eddie call them he and Eddie even says something like, “We’ll discuss this like two men.” This is in sharp contrast to Drake, who calls them, ‘it’ and ‘my creature’ and ‘my property.’
In that light, seeing that they are clearly using gender to make Venom a fully sentient being, and not something to be used and owned, I’ve been letting Eddie call them ‘him’ in my stories.
Is it really right? No. It’s a lazy way to build empathy for a character. But, if I were Eddie, would I be thinking deep thoughts about it? Probably not, I’d just run with the male pronouns.
And, more importantly, if I were Venom, would being calling ‘he’ bother me? I headcanon that, no, it wouldn’t. Genders are not their problem. If anything, it probably amuses them and allows them to tease Eddie about how much he wanted a big strong man in him all the time…
So, yeah. I use he/him pronouns when Eddie is thinking or talking about Venom, and in the one story I have from Vee’s POV, they used they/them pronouns.
But I am not 100% behind my own rationalisations.
What do you all think?
I generally headcanon that symbiotes adopt the gender of the creature they’re with. So Venom is he with Eddie, her with Annie.
merelypassingtime:
Gendering Venom: A Debate
Because I think about Venom 24/6 (I reserve Sundays for just thinking about Tom Hardy {Mmm.. Tom Hardy… [No! Bad Mere! It’s not Sunday]}), I have thought long and deeply about whether or not to use gendered pronouns for Venom.
And the result of all my thinking, pondering, and deliberating is: I don’t know.
Canon is that Venom is a ‘he.’ Both Anne and Eddie call them he and Eddie even says something like, “We’ll discuss this like two men.” This is in sharp contrast to Drake, who calls them, ‘it’ and ‘my creature’ and ‘my property.’
In that light, seeing that they are clearly using gender to make Venom a fully sentient being, and not something to be used and owned, I’ve been letting Eddie call them ‘him’ in my stories.
Is it really right? No. It’s a lazy way to build empathy for a character. But, if I were Eddie, would I be thinking deep thoughts about it? Probably not, I’d just run with the male pronouns.
And, more importantly, if I were Venom, would being calling ‘he’ bother me? I headcanon that, no, it wouldn’t. Genders are not their problem. If anything, it probably amuses them and allows them to tease Eddie about how much he wanted a big strong man in him all the time…
So, yeah. I use he/him pronouns when Eddie is thinking or talking about Venom, and in the one story I have from Vee’s POV, they used they/them pronouns.
But I am not 100% behind my own rationalisations.
What do you all think?
I generally headcanon that symbiotes adopt the gender of the creature they’re with. So Venom is he with Eddie, her with Annie.