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skull_bearer ([personal profile] skull_bearer) wrote2011-09-22 09:24 pm
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A funny thought about Israel

So Israel is grabbing up land with illegal settlements right, and as they do so it brings more and more Palestinian people into Israel. The more of them go into Israel, the less and less Jewish Israel is. How long will it be until the Jewish state isn't that Jewish any more?

(assuming I don't end up studying, in fifty years time, 'Comparative Genocide, the victims become the killers, a comparison of the Holocaust and the Israel v Palestine slaughterhouse curpstomp-a-thon)

[identity profile] totenkopf6.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't possible to resign from the Totenkopverbande (which I assume is what you meant by Totenkopf rather than the panzer division) anyone who tried to resign usually found himself in striped pyjamas within a short time...

[identity profile] ars-belli.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Long time no see!

Yes, I did mean the TotenkopfverbÀnde, not 3 SS Panzer Div., I was just too lazy to type it at the time. (And SS-TV often gets confused with SS-VT, so that's no good as an abbreviation either!) Do you know if anyone in the TotenkopfverbÀnde actually tried to resign/protest/volunteer for duty on the Eastern Front? (This sounds like a good question for the Axis History Forum, but even there most of the stuff I read lumps them into a single group of war criminals.)

[identity profile] totenkopf6.livejournal.com 2011-09-27 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, yeah I rarely get on here these days.
The history of the TKV (does that work) is murky at best. Most of them ended up in the waffen ss anyway so far as I can work out, with camp guard duties being handed over to older men or those recuperating from injuries. Also lots of non-Germans recruited in for that kind of work. I imagine some did volunteer for the front and probably got what they asked for, there are also examples of front line staff being rotated back into the camp system for incompetence etc. Trouble is its hard to tell what camps and at what time, I'm not sure if it went on between the waffen ss and the Op.Reinhard camps for example. One fact that is often glossed over is that TKV personnel were used as reserves for the entire waffen ss, not just the 3rd divison, so the "reputation" of the 3rd division really should apply to most other units too.