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skull_bearer ([personal profile] skull_bearer) wrote2006-07-19 12:44 am

Goiawrgfihfvdjncvmnmmk- GAH!

WHY is there a brass dragon in Dragons of Dwarven Depths? More than that, it seems to think it's in the Dwarfgate wars, which means therefor, that there was a brass. Dragon. In. The. Dwarfgate. Wars.

Am I the only one who thinks this is canon butchery?

This had better be explained to my FULL and COMPLETE satisfaction or Weiss and Hickman are going to heard from me as to why a fanfiction write appears to have a better grasp of canon than they do.

[identity profile] halokitty69.livejournal.com 2006-07-19 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
I like your version of canon better ^_^

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2006-07-19 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but I seem to understand canon better than they do, I'm near the end of the book now and they still haven't explained what a brass dragon was doing in Skullcap, or, for that matter, how it got in.

[identity profile] roachspit.livejournal.com 2006-07-19 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
There were, I think, two or three game modules for each of the three original books. There was at least one different kind of dragon in each module--so that all of the modules together accounted for the five types of evil/chromatic and five types of good/metallic dragons--apparently for the sole purpose of allowing them to put the word "Dragon" in the series title. No explanation for some of them.

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2006-07-19 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, games modules I can understand, they're not supposed to make sense, but come on, surely Weiss and Hickman are discerning enough to work out that adding one comepetely pointless dragon would screw with the entire storyline? Anyway, we do get dragons, there are plenty of red ones flying around.

I'm near the end of the book and no explanation as to the brass dragon's appearence has been put forward. I am exceptionally pissed.

[identity profile] roachspit.livejournal.com 2006-07-19 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The brass dragon is there as a random shout out to the Dwarfgate Wars. It's like foreshadowing, except backwards. It's aftershadowing.

That's all I could come up with.

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2006-07-19 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
*despairing wail*

But there /were/ no brass dragons in the Dwarfgate Wars!

[identity profile] roachspit.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
It was a *stealth* brass dragon. The evil dwarven wizards put it in a coma before it became a problem to the plot. *fanwank*

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Riiiight...

[identity profile] chetwynd-hayes.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Blaize, the brass dragon, is not foreshadowing.

He is an damned encounter in the original AD&D modules ('204.Armory'). Of course, this is one of W&H's typical blunders. In the module it's explained that Blaize was on the armies attacking Skullcap during the Dwarfgate Wars and was left in temporal stasis by one of Fistandantilus' spells. So they've left it as it was.

Which makes no sense.

Of course, the fact that dragons were (apparently) gone from Ansalon at the time of dwarf vs. mad archmage hasn't entered their heads. No, instead of, for example (and this is a poor one, but better than the real thing) having Blaize frozen in time from the age of Huma and then taken to Fisty's fortress as an weird ornament (well, Fisty *is* weird, after all.)

Evil dwarven wizards... That has been a sore point for years already... Like orc and many other things.

[identity profile] skull-bearer.livejournal.com 2006-07-20 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
*headdesk*

Why is it I have a better grasp of their universe than they do?