Again, tell that to the Ashkenazim who run Israel, particularly the Ultra-Orthodox. I'll be waiting.
If that were the only reason for it, the Spanish would have just done a pogrom aimed at converting Jews, gotten enough converts, and that would be that. The Alhambra Decree was aimed at Conversos. The ones who were supposedly Christian but were really "Jewish." Just like a good deal of Hitler's victims would not meet the Halachic definition of Jew advocated by Israel's ultra-orthodox.
Congratulations. You said something I already know. *slow clap.*
And I'm saying "bullshit" because nobody would have expelled the Conversos if that was a religious decree. Only the practicing Jews would have been targeted, when in fact the entire focus was on Conversos, a category often determined by what were proto-racial categorizations.
I don't want to defend Hitler's incompetent war that went from one bumbling to another and put half of Europe under Stalinism. If Hitler had stopped a machine gun bullet on the Western Front....some other dipshit would have taken his place and we'dve had this conversation griping about that other person and wishing *he'd* been shot. And frankly I'm not insulting the Jews. The ones who resisted were true heroes, especially in Birkenau and Sobibor. I am, however, pointing out that it could easily have been that Birkenau and Sobibor were run by Baron Ungern-Sternberg's Black Hundreds instead of Hitler's National Socialists.
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Date: 2011-01-31 05:58 pm (UTC)If that were the only reason for it, the Spanish would have just done a pogrom aimed at converting Jews, gotten enough converts, and that would be that. The Alhambra Decree was aimed at Conversos. The ones who were supposedly Christian but were really "Jewish." Just like a good deal of Hitler's victims would not meet the Halachic definition of Jew advocated by Israel's ultra-orthodox.
Congratulations. You said something I already know. *slow clap.*
And I'm saying "bullshit" because nobody would have expelled the Conversos if that was a religious decree. Only the practicing Jews would have been targeted, when in fact the entire focus was on Conversos, a category often determined by what were proto-racial categorizations.
I don't want to defend Hitler's incompetent war that went from one bumbling to another and put half of Europe under Stalinism. If Hitler had stopped a machine gun bullet on the Western Front....some other dipshit would have taken his place and we'dve had this conversation griping about that other person and wishing *he'd* been shot. And frankly I'm not insulting the Jews. The ones who resisted were true heroes, especially in Birkenau and Sobibor. I am, however, pointing out that it could easily have been that Birkenau and Sobibor were run by Baron Ungern-Sternberg's Black Hundreds instead of Hitler's National Socialists.